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	<title>Comments on: UI Design Patterns: let&#8217;s clean up our language</title>
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	<description>Closer to the glass...</description>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://blog.spinthemoose.com/2010/07/20/ui-design-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. IMHO, the MVC, MVVM, and MVP patterns mentioned here have very little to do with UI at all, other than the fact that the UI is a component of the pattern. Really, they&#039;re software architecture patterns. The UI has no knowledge of the underlying pattern and is merely a component of said pattern. It doesn&#039;t care. So calling it a UI anything seems a misnomer.

I do agree completely with your distinction between using the word design versus architecture. Let&#039;s be explicit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. IMHO, the MVC, MVVM, and MVP patterns mentioned here have very little to do with UI at all, other than the fact that the UI is a component of the pattern. Really, they&#8217;re software architecture patterns. The UI has no knowledge of the underlying pattern and is merely a component of said pattern. It doesn&#8217;t care. So calling it a UI anything seems a misnomer.</p>
<p>I do agree completely with your distinction between using the word design versus architecture. Let&#8217;s be explicit.</p>
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		<title>By: davidalpert</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidalpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% with the value of using language that your audience understands.

The point I was making above is that the specific phrase &quot;&lt;strong&gt;UI&lt;/strong&gt; design pattern&quot; evokes something different to designers and UX-minded people than it does to server-side or back-end developers while adding the word &quot;architecture&quot; does not change the meaning for those folks already expecting the pattern to be an architectural one.

Small steps to clarify our language and speak with more precision can go a long way towards building bridges between audiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% with the value of using language that your audience understands.</p>
<p>The point I was making above is that the specific phrase &#8220;<strong>UI</strong> design pattern&#8221; evokes something different to designers and UX-minded people than it does to server-side or back-end developers while adding the word &#8220;architecture&#8221; does not change the meaning for those folks already expecting the pattern to be an architectural one.</p>
<p>Small steps to clarify our language and speak with more precision can go a long way towards building bridges between audiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://blog.spinthemoose.com/2010/07/20/ui-design-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While your terms make sense, the term design pattern is widely understood to mean what you call architectural patterns.  For better or for worse, that&#039;s it&#039;s common usage, and I try to talk in the language that the majority of my audience understands...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While your terms make sense, the term design pattern is widely understood to mean what you call architectural patterns.  For better or for worse, that&#8217;s it&#8217;s common usage, and I try to talk in the language that the majority of my audience understands&#8230;</p>
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